So we are back with Spidcast this month (listen in below and subscribe on iTunes) this time with a collaborative filmmaking focus. For April’s show we feature two filmmakers who are both actively producing original web series. These two guys are doing interesting things within the new media space, and it was our pleasure to have Ralph and Richard on the show.

Ralph Fontaine is a Spidvid member who is producing the web series Causality which is set to be released later this year. Ralph discusses his series, how collaboration has benefited its production, and he shares how his team is building an audience BEFORE the series is released.

Richard Boehmcke has just released the pilot episode for his web series Twentease and is quickly figuring out this rapidly evolving digital media landscape. Richard talks about tapping into social media, collaborative production, and how tapping into your connection networks can be extremely beneficial to filmmaking projects.

Enjoy April’s Spidcast show below!

If you’re interested in sponsoring next month’s Spidcast show with a product or service you sell that’s filmmaking related, then please get in touch. If you have something to say with regards to what Ralph or Richard talked about, then please post a comment below to continue the conversation. Thanks for listening, it feels super great to be back!

Full Show Transcript Below

INTRO

Michael: Hi. I’m Michael London and welcome to Spidcast, the future of collaborative video production brought to you by Spidvid.com. On this episode, we’re visiting with Richard Boehmcke from New York City. He’s a writer, director and creator and I bet you’ve seen some of his work and not known it. He has some interesting insights to share. We’ll also visit with Ralph Fontaine, creator and director, and he has a new web series called “Causality”.

I say we jump right in. Richard, welcome to Spidcast. Tell us a little bit about your story.

Richard: I’m a writer/director/creator of things. I live in New York City. I’ve been blogging for about three years and that’s kind of shoot me up into other things, short video, contests, playwriting and some stuff like that and kind of got into the social media world where I started into Facebook and got on Twitter and eventually, for me this is really the first super valuable things that come out of Twitter was coming across Spidvid. I saw the posting looking for anybody who wanted to talk a little bit about video collaboration and it’s something I’m passionate about and looking forward to sharing some thoughts on it today.

Michael: Well, since you brought up Spidvid, tell us a bit about your experiences with collaboration.

Richard: Sure. I’ve been really fortunate to have a lot of great people around me that I work with. Some of the cool stuff that I’ve done recently are some short video contest that I did late last year which led into working on this short web series actually that I’m putting together right now. We finished the pilot in fall and submitted it to a contest. We submitted to the “Bing Decisions” contest. It’s a contest about decisions, so they wanted to see a short pilot about that. I needed help doing it.

I wanted to write/direct it but I needed people to get in it and help me put it together and I basically reached out to some of my trusted friends and said hey, do you know anybody who’s interested and basically was fortunate enough to get hooked up with some really great people and we put together this pilot and shot it and brewed it in a couple of weeks and shot in a day and edited it in about four weeks, which is unfortunately the worst part of the process. But put it together and it was a really excited process, now we’re actually probably going to be working with some of those people on some projects later in the fall that we’re putting together right now.

Michael: Excellent. We’d love to hear that. Share with us more specifically about some of those with whom you have collaborated?

Richard: When I got into this pilot, we knew that we needed a staff. We needed that in the past, there’d be a cameraman and actors, but this time, we needed a director of photography. We needed producers. We needed people to support the whole process and I didn’t have that in my immediate network, kind of my first connections.

I have some people who would help out with marketing of plays that I’ve written and directed in the past. I said hey do you anybody who likes doing this sort of thing and they knew what kind of I was all about and the things that I love to do. That was really a huge help in reaching out and I had a friend whose friends went to NYU Film School. They loved doing projects like this and so put me in touch with the director of photography and him and his buddy shot the actual pilot and through another friend, I was like I need some help putting this together. I can write and direct it, I was confident in that but reaching out to a venue, I didn’t necessarily know that I have that connection. Another friend who had seen some of my work said, I have a friend who’s looking to do some producing. And really what it came down to was being fortunate enough to have people who knew the kind of work that I was looking to do and knew people that were passionate about kind of breaking into this.

We kind of all helped each other out in this project and it was great because like I said, I didn’t have those connections and it’s so important to have people who know what they’re doing. I mean, you can kind of fake it in the beginning but it comes across real quick if you don’t know what you’re doing. It was super helpful to have that.

Michael: You are right there. You have found the creative collaborators but how about creating projects with limited or even no budgets?

Richard: It’s pretty easy. You just basically stop sleeping and just obsess compulsively over the project until it’s done. We had no budget for this project as we have limited budget for anything else. Basically, the budget is whatever spare cash I have in my bank account at that time.

For this project, it really came down to the conversation beforehand which kind of guided the project because like I said, we didn’t have any money, we didn’t have a bank roll or budget or anything to fund it. I knew I needed people who are willing to volunteer their services and who are going to be as passionate about it as I am.

It was interesting because one of the first people I was put in touch with about kind of doing this filming and being a director of photography for the project, we had the initial conversation and he was going to help us out. I was like, okay cool and I got off the phone with and I was just like you know what, he’s going to work for free and he’s got great equipment but I just didn’t get that good vibe of this is somebody that I really felt got what we were looking to do. I actually followed up and said, you know, I’m going to go to another direction and take my chances to see if I could find somebody else. Lucky enough, I was able to find somebody else willing to volunteer their services.

It really comes down to those initial conversations of how much are you willing to give and in the nicest way possible, not like in the sense of hey, you got to give me everything you have to give me. Everything, give me your soul, but more in the regards of hey, what can you offer and what do you have to contribute and can we make this together? It was volunteering of time and finding some venues that were looking to donate services as well.

I think that’s when you kind of have those best projects are when people come together who are all really interested in accomplishing a goal and their more passionate about seeing a completed project, seeing something thru the completion as opposed to just how we can make it the biggest possible. We left the project and one of the girls, who produced the show, actually said to us, “I’ve never had that much fun on a project before. I thought it was supposed to be stressful”. That was the nicest thing I heard at the end, which kind of validated our whole approach.

Michael: And without the fun, what’s the point, right? Now, talking about fun, collaboration has seem to somewhat lessened the backstabbing competition that is sometimes prevalent in this business.

Richard: Yes. We’ve realized kind of early on—and I say “we” and I speak in the royal “we” all the time—the most work I do is with my friend Andrea, who’s a childhood friend, we’ve been friends for 15 years and just kind of stumbled into working on this stuff together and she’s my editor, my producer, my everything in these projects. She’s like my primary collaboration in all of this. She is there for every step of the way.

One of the things we’ve seen kind of early on is that we just want to do something kind of unique and something cool and something that speaks to us and for us, it has come to the forefront of this project. We wanted to kind of create stuff that either we don’t hear or things that reflect our lives in the discussion that we’re having. You see other people doing stuff and I’d be lying if I said I didn’t feel that sense of oh man, they’re two years younger than me and they’ve got this contract or they sold a movie or something like that.

I think it comes down to really as making something that speaks to what you’re looking to do and just being honest with creating the kind of work that’s honest about your voice and what you’re looking to create because there’s a great competition in it and having other people kind of in the same space doing stuff and innovating and that’s a really cool kind of competition but I’m not looking to blow anybody else out of the water. I want to do something that makes me happiest and I feel really helps the people that I’m working with all kind of reach our potentials and do the things that we really love to do.

It’s cool to work with somebody else. You want to believe that you can do it all yourself but all it takes it a couple of sleepless nights and some heart palpitations to make you realize that you can’t necessarily do that. If you could find those good people to work with, man, it changes the whole process. It makes it bigger that any one person.

Michael: Let’s do a one AV on this. Taking if from collaboration to direct competition, which you recently won a competition, right?

Richard: There were actually two contests that I won last year. Two video contests—one was the Fiji Water-Air Pacific “Two Tickets to Paradise Contest” and the other one was the Cold-Eeze “Worst Cold Ever Contest”. I won a vacation out of both of them, which the first thing I learned was winning video contest is a great way to finance your vacations. That’s a goal for this year.

The thing that I really learned was both of those projects, as soon as I read the summary or the bio of what the contest was about, I had the idea. It came to me right in that moment. I entered, I think, probably about a dozen video contests last year and some of them I kind of forced an idea into creation and try to make something happen when I didn’t necessarily have a whole bunch there. I realized from these contests that when I did have success in them that it really pays to go with what your gut says and attack those things that you know you can make a difference at. Because I can enter 25 video contests throughout the year but if I’m just kind of bringing to light some kind of 30% ideas, it’s not going to be a great success and it’s not going to validate me in the way that I want to create great art or work or whatever you want to call it.

What I learned from that really was that man, if I have a great idea about something and I feel that kind excitement in my chest, that’s something that I want to go for, yeah, I’m going to pursue it. Whereas, I don’t have to force myself to do something just to make something just to have it. I want to create a whole bunch of content. I want to create great content but I would rather have it stuffed that’s coming from inside me and things that are actually organic to my hopes and dreams. It’s a little over the top there but I think to the things that I want to do and really speaks to my goals and focusing on the things that I believe I can do something good in, I think that’s really what I’ve learned from that impulse (from that tremendously).

Michael: Well, let’s do go over the top a bit. What are your thoughts as you get that feeling in your chest, that feeling of anticipation about future projects and collaborations?

Richard: When you bring up that idea of anticipation, I’m anticipating about everything, about the next 10 years. That’s what keeps me up at night, just the exciting feeling of all those great stuff coming.

We’re working on two really big projects right now. One, we’re finishing writing the script for this web pilot which they’ll announce the winner in May so whether or not we win the contest or not, we’re going to go ahead and shoot the entire series and get it online and get it out there. It’s a series we call “Twentease”, kind of a play on words about the tease of being in your twenties. We’re writing that now.

We’ve got a play lined up for the fall. It’s a full length play. It’s called the “Lion’s Wager”. We’re shooting for October and we’re going to do some really cool stuff. We’re doing a two-month web series leading up to it.

We’re doing a whole bunch of multimedia stuff through Foursquare and Twitter and Facebook and a really unique approach trying to change the way people see live theatre and really kind of doing a grassroots, a term that’s thrown around a lot, but kind of a grassroots approach in that connecting people to the project very early on so that we’ve got this built-in audience so that there’s this kind of great lead up to this show that will go on for a week in the fall. We’re going to film it and put the whole thing online kind of like a high quality film. We’re working on those and putting all our resources towards both of those things.

Michael: Lots and lots of things in the pipeline. That’s what we love to hear. How do folks get in touch with you and see your work and perhaps collaborate with you, Richard?

Richard: We’re always looking for cool people to collaborate with and people who have ideas. I say “we” again, but Andrea and I, my friend who I kind of coerced into most of this are always looking for a new project. Everything is kind of found to the homepage. It’s Boehmcke.com and everything’s there. You can hit me up on Facebook, our Vimeo page, our YouTube channel and see all of the kind of work we’re doing and reach out to us that way. Of course, our blog as well which you can find out through Boehmcke.com.

One of the cool things is that we’ve been lucky enough to kind of find this podcast and this opportunity through Spidvid. I follow Spidvid on Twitter, so anybody else who wants to reach out on Twitter to Spidvid or to me, specifically, I think it’s a great kind of new tool for video collaborators because I think it kind of instantly puts it into your stream and instantly puts it into your kind of access point where it might not have been a couple of years ago or even a couple of months ago. It’s a great way to keep in touch.

Michael: Richard, thank you so much. It’s been a pleasure.

Richard: Thank you.

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Michael: Next up a visit with Ralph Fontaine. Ralph, jump right in here. Get the Spidcast family up to date on you.

Ralph: Sure. My name is Ralph Fontaine and I’m the director/producer of an upcoming web series called “Causality”. I started out awhile back as an actor and I’ve learned early on that although I really enjoy acting, there were some things that I missed about just having a little more control, a little more creative control of the process.

I started learning web directing and producing and learned that it’s one of the most exciting things in the world to see your vision come to life on a screen. I got more into that and kept up with the acting. I worked in Los Angeles for awhile as a reality TV producer and director and decided that reality TV was not for me. As everyone knows, there’s really no reality to it at all and there’s really not a lot of vision to it either.

I left that and I came up to Seattle and I connected with a lot of really good people and became sort of (inaudible 0:14:54) in the filmmaking world appear as much as I could. I’ve been learning more and just getting more involved and more involved in the world of directing and producing and as web series and web entertainment have developed, I really decided that I think that’s the future of entertainment since more people are more both creating shows for online distribution and watching them that way.

I think that there’s not reason to have to be in New York or Los Angeles anymore if you’re a creative and talented person. There are tons of them here in Seattle. I know there are others all over the country and I think that’s really the future. It doesn’t have to be segments in one of those two major hubs that have been before.

Michael: That’s great. There is a wealth of talent in those so-called flyover states that now have accessibility to producers such as yourself. Tell us about your latest production.

Ralph: Sure. “Causality” is a story of several time travelers who come from various times in the future for various reasons. One of our tag lines is “Every one has their own reasons for traveling to the past.” When they come to the past, they end up meeting together, much like settlers in the Old West that people who came from different places. In our story, they’re coming from different times but they meet one another, they support one another, they help each other survive in the sort of a foreign land. As they do that, they end up running into some people from the current time, which takes place in our current time around 2011, and someone else gets drawn into their story and into their environment and they have to work together to prevent some things from happening that really shouldn’t happen.

It’s really character-driven. It is a science-fiction and speculative fiction web series as we like to say. Because of the fact that we really believe that characters are what make good science-fiction good, although there will be some special effects and there will be some science-fiction scenes, we’re really focusing on the characters and the acting and the writing. We’re hoping that what that’s going to do is help us stand apart from some of the other shows that maybe have very high production values and very exciting special effects. In addition to having that stuff, we’re going to have as strong of acting and writing as we can possibly get.

I’m really excited about the cast that we have. We just shot a promo the other day that looked amazing. I’m really excited for it. The whole team is just really getting into the process and just developing the story as we go and we’re learning more about the characters and learning more about the situations and we’re hoping it’s going to be sustainable, something that we can continue for a couple of different seasons.

We’re talking what we call a transmedia approach to it and I don’t know how familiar people are with transmedia but what it means to us is that our primary means of telling the story will be the episodes. Each episode will be between probably five to ten minutes long and ultimately by the end of the first season, it’ll be about a feature film length, about 90-100 minutes or so. In addition to that, we will have character blogs, character video blogs that I call the Captain’s vlog, kind of like on “Star Trek” where there’ll be characters sitting in front of a webcam telling some aspect of the story that relates to the main story in the episodes but is a little bit separate and may give more back story for those that are interested.

We’re also going to have some written fiction that’s in the world of “Causality”, but again, related to but not exactly the same story that we’re telling in the episodes. For those that are interested, there’s going to be lots of different ways to go deeper, learn more about our characters, their situations, how they got there, why they do what they do in the episodes. It’s going to be up for the viewers. If they want to just watch the episodes, they’ll stand along and they’ll be hopefully exciting and keep them coming back for more. If they’re interested, there’s going to be more to watch and more to read.

Michael: That is a great added bonus. Love that. Now, if you would speak a bit about a collaboration has aided you specifically in the development of “Causality”.

Ralph: Collaboration is completely essential. I’ve worked on projects in the past as a producer and director. I’ve had some ideas that I was hoping would go somewhere and because of those times, I didn’t find the right people and the right situations, those ideas didn’t really go anywhere and part of the reason that “Causality” is actually getting some traction and going somewhere is because of the team that we’ve built. It’s a very strong team of passionate, creative, talented people who all bring their own—not just their own personal skills and talents—but also their own networks to it. Everyone who is part of the process has really brought more to it rather than just the talents. They brought new friends and new ideas and things that just bring it so much further.

I want to mention a couple of my partners in the process, Glynis Mitchell, is one of the writers and she’s also going to be one of the actresses and she’s the producer. She has really brought a lot to it with—I was mentioning earlier about the character-driven aspects of it. She’s a writer and an actress. She brings a very character-driven esthetic to it.

The other writer is Michael Montoure and he is by trade a horror and science-fiction writer. He brings the really strong sort of scientific and science fiction aspect to it. The two of them collaborating to write has really made it something more than it would have been alone.

We also have some Seattle talent coming in as director of the photography. We’ve had really good people because of some people we knew. We got a great location for our promo. Without the collaboration of people, we really wouldn’t have even gotten as far as we have and we’re still in the very early stages.

Where we really see the collaboration continuing is we have been active on Twitter, Facebook and blogging on our website to try to build some audience. We’ve really already started developing outside of our Seattle network of artists. We’ve started developing a strong collaboration with some of our fellow web series creators that we met on Twitter. I think that’s amazing because as I was saying earlier, I feel like the new world of entertainment that’s coming is coming on the web and it’s a little bit like our series. It’s the Old West and there’s no rules.

Everyone is doing their own way and there’s so much talent out there all over the country and we’re all trying for the same goal and yet the competition factor is not a negative thing. We’re all looking for more people to start watching and paying attention to entertainment online. For example, one of our friends is Michael Flores from Western X: The Series, he has built a great following for his series. Although they’re also kind of a speculative-fantasy-fiction kind of series, their competition is not negative with us because if he gets an audience and then shares that audience with and we build an audience and share it with him, now we both win because there’s more people watching online entertainment.

That online collaboration, the same thing with Spidvid, the fact that what you guys are doing and brining filmmakers together in wherever they are and whatever skills are, brining people together to create something is the only way we’re going to get this done since we’re not sticking to those hubs like New York and Los Angeles.

In those places, it’s easier to make the connections with someone else who’s in the industry because let’s face it, everyone in L.A. is in the industry so anywhere you go, you’re going to run in to someone who has a similar goal. The negative there is there’s all that competition where if I befriend someone in L.A. who’s also a director, we might be vying for the same work. In this case, we’re just vying for audience. We’re not taking each other’s jobs. We’re building audience together and we’re building awareness that is this relatively new form of entertainment. That’s really exciting to me and I don’t think that we’d be able to go very far with it if we didn’t have that collaboration. The more people that start watching this stuff online and start really enjoying the concept of sort of shorter episodic entertainment, the way web series tend to be, the more advertisers are going to take note. There’s going to actually become more money in this for the creators and to allow them to sustain their art the way that sometimes people can’t right now.

Michael: I love win-win aspect of this. Now, you mentioned about the blogging and podcasting to a not only in the marketing, but also the enjoyment of “Causality”, where do we find that?

Ralph: Our website is Watchcausality.com and what we have up there right now is still in the preliminary stages. We have a blog that we contribute to as often as possible. We tend to do at least three posts per week and the people that are mainly posting right now are myself, Glynis Mitchell and Michael Montoure, the creators and producers of the show. We do also have some of our cast members contributing blogs when they can. We’ve also began the process of talking to some of our web series creators to maybe add some more blog content about their shows as I was talking about with the cross-promotion.

Go to watchcausality.com, you’ll see our blog. We have a couple of promos up. They’re very simple, short promos to start to introduce our characters. We also have a Q&A session that we did at a local Seattle bar and restaurant here that was nice enough to host a reading of Michael Montoure’s, one of his fiction and horror stories and the crowd that was there were mostly friends and other people from the area who knew of his writing and they also knew of the series so they started asking us some questions of “Causality” and we shot that and sort of made a Q&A so the people would understand a little bit more about the series. Since we don’t have episodes up yet and it’s still kind of a ways off until you’re really going to get to see a full episode. We wanted to start getting people to understand what our world is, who are these characters that we’re going to hope you’re going to follow once the episodes are out and really building a community around the sights as the world of “Causality” that we’re creating.

I’ve been reading quite a bit lately about how to build an audience for a web series and one of the things I’ve learned is that what most people do is they go out, they create their show, they bring your team together, they create their show, they edit it and they put it up online and then they go why isn’t anybody watching?

Well, it’s not that they didn’t make a good product. A lot of times, they do. It’s just that it takes a very long time to build an audience and it takes a very long time to create a quality show. What I had learned from some of the stuff I’ve read is why not start early? Why not start during this process? It’s going to be about a year from when we started talking and planning “Causality” until we actually have a full season of episodes. Why not take that year and build awareness and build excitement for the episodes that are upcoming? That’s what we’re doing. We’re active one Twitter. We’re doing the blogging. We’re starting a podcast actually. We’ve already recorded a couple of episodes that’s called Podcast the Test. It’s not posted yet because we want to make sure we have several episodes in the can before we start making it available so that it can be a regular thing. Once a week or so, we’ll be able to release a new podcast and the podcast is going to be not specifically about “Causality” but it’s going to be about what we call sci-fi (inaudible 0:26:03), which is just about anything sci-fi. We’re going to talk a little bit about the world of “Causality” but we’re also going to talk about our influences, other shows that we like, other shows that maybe we don’t like. It’s kind of humorous and for anyone who’s into sci-fi, we’re hopefully they’re going to really enjoy listening to some of our opinions and maybe they’ll agree with me, maybe they won’t and they can write in and we can talk about that the next time.

We’ve got the podcast. We’ve got the blog. We’ve got the promos that are up there right now. We’re really just trying to engage people as much as we can and have them be there for us when the episodes are up.

Michael: We will all head over and check those out. Ralph, how about some take home points for those wanting to get involved in collaborative production?

Ralph: My advice to anyone who’s trying to create a web series is to have a plan. One of the things I said earlier is that we know a lot of people and we’ve heard about a lot of people that create something and they put a lot of time, energy, sweat and tears, all that stuff to creating something and then they’re frustrated with the fact that it didn’t go anywhere. Part of those is because we’re all artists. We want to create our art. That’s the ultimate goal of what we do but if you have a strong plan and that means sort of a production plan, a marketing plan, and a budget, these are all ways that you can really make your art even more worthwhile so that not just you and your close-knit family and friends are the ones enjoying it.

The more of a plan you have, the more people will see what you’re doing and the more sustainable that art will become. By marketing plan, I really mean think about how do you want to get the word out? Think about who is your audience. An artist don’t like to think about this stuff a lot of times, they think if I do something good, everyone will like it. Ultimately, that maybe true but to get people to know about it, you have to focus on the people who are going to be passionate about it. In our case, it’s science-fiction fans.

In other cases, you may have a niche. I have another friend in Los Angeles who created a web series called “WORKSHOP: The Series” and he was very smart about it. He created a series about a bunch of actors in L.A. that are taking a workshop to learn about acting and connect and try to get famous in L.A. They’re very character-driven and hey, everyone in L.A. can relate to these characters that they’ve created. He built a strong audience because he came up with something that people relate to and he knew what that was. He knew how to market it.

Whatever you’re creating, find out who your audience is and find out where they hangout. Go online, go on Twitter, go on Facebook, create a fan page and really try to have a plan that by this time, I want to have this many followers and this many likes on Facebook. Here’s what I’m going to do to get there. I’m going to release promos once a month. I’m going to some video content at least once a month. I’m going to do a blog post three times a week. Give people reasons to keep coming back to you and to tell their friends about what it is that you’re doing. If they do that, then your audience will branch beyond the initial niche people if it’s a good story and if it’s done well. That’s what we’re hoping for. That’s my advice. Just really use the network you have keep building that network online in places like Spidvid, places like other websites where you can post and repost articles and contribute, become part of the community.

Michael: Priceless advice, Ralph. Again, let folks know how they can get in touch with you and enjoy your work.

Ralph: Sure. The website for “Causality” is Watchcausality.com and my personal Twitter account is @rfontaine71. I also recommend that you follow @watchcausality on Twitter. You get more information about what’s upcoming for the show. If you like, you can follow a couple of the creators, @glynismitchell. She’s one of the creators and actresses of the show and writers. Then there’s @montoure. If you’re interested in horror-writing, you can check out his website at Bloodletters.com.

Michael: Ralph, thank you so much. It’s been a pleasure.

Ralph: Thanks a lot and for having me.

Michael: I’m Michael London. Thanks for listening to our Spidcast show, we appreciate your time and attention! You can now join the conversation at Spidcast.com or on our Spidvid blog. And you can join our collaborative filmmaking community at Spidvid.com. Tune in next month for another entertaining and informative episode of Spidcast!